Bott assignments

Tonight I noticed that the teams on radar were lopsided again, 1 axis human and 7 bots against 7 allied human and one bot, again, but the thing that I noticed were that the 7 axis bots were all engies.  Once allies plant a dyno then all 7 run to try to disarm it leaving the single axis to try to defend.  Thus no defense with all the bots running in the opposite direction.  Is there a possibility that the various classes can be spread out a bit on the bots?  Maybe have a couple of engie bots and even the rest medics.  That way if !stacked were used then it might work better.

And just to let you know though the lone axis asked for help but got nowhere as far as help went.  The previous map, Minas, I was allied and asked if the teams could be more balanced but the only reply I got was that I had to be kidding.  Fender and I were on allies.

This was done deliberately to try to keep the attacking team moving.

The real problem here was that you had 7 humans verses 1. You should have used !stacked or !shuffle.

I used the stacked command but all the engie bots were more interested it seemed to want to blow the allied cp or build the mg and with the map scrips set up as they are all the bots just line up like ducks and march off to their glorious deaths.  I tried the shuffle cmd right after it was implemented to see how it would work out when the teams were relatively small, 4 allied and one axis I think and one person moved back to the original team they were on and 1 left.  Since, I have not seen anyone use the command I think with fear that people will just switch back or leave.

I've seen this too OneOldMan. And even after I ask that the teams be balanced. I'm ignored alot. So I run the !stacked command. Don't help much mostly. And as bad as I'm wanting to try the !shuffle command. I'm thinking we should be doing more to encourage good behavior with the prize being invited into or accepted into our clan?
 And then there's the " Game play is much better when teams are balanced!" message. This is a good one. Cause it's true. But they don't see it most the time. It's like I'm wasting my time to type it in.
 If this doesn't work I'll sometimes comment on them not being skilled enough to play even teams. Try to taunt them sometimes. "What you scared of each other?" It's as if they not even seeing the text. Sometimes it works most times don't.
I have a whole list of these no-tag whities.  Yea! I started a asshat list. For future recruiting purposes. Any of these people want my vote. They better start helping balance teams.
 I believe we need a very attention grabbing message that reads something like "To be considered for clan recruitment. You must help balance teams, and respect our rules." That could encourage some to respect our rules more. Now they know if they have any hope of ever joining our clan they well have to help balance teams. If that don't work. We could try the "We shuffle stacked teams." message.
 And I believe all us admins are working hard to keep teams balance. I see us switching all the time to keep the teams balanced. Since Obit first brought it up, I've seen a big change in how all of us admins play. I think it's helped a lot. We are all working together to balance teams more now. Good rule Obit, gotta say I like it. The game is so much better when it's balanced. I see it all the time. You have showed us all something in this Obit.
 So how about it? Don't you all see the difference it has made? I've been FBY now almost 3 years now. And this has got to be the biggest change I've seen in our server play. And it has made the game better. Good Call Obit.
 Now to encourage the outsiders to follow our rules. I believe it would help to encourage them to do so through clan recruitment guidelines. Well advertised.
 What do you all think? I don't think it's to much to ask or demand of players we recruit. We are a great clan and we are growing. Thanks to good leadership and a great bunch of people from all over the world working together to make this the best server in ET.
 And sorry for the length. It needed to be said. And there's a lot more that could be said. There's another tread about it I know. Maybe we should move it there.

I agree, Twisted.

Although it took a while, I think all of the admins are now on track with keeping teams balanced. And the FBY members who didn't want to change have since been liquidated.

The server is better for this change. I'll second the motion that people must have a history of switching sides when needed before being considered for clan membership. It is probably the simplest task an FBY admin is ever asked to do, and keeps the game running smoothly.

Again last night I was the only human with 7 engies.  No backup and could have used a medic.  But I will say that my cp was always built and theirs wasn't.

I changed the bot roster. Now there should be 6 engies and 2 medics.

Saw that and appreciate it.  Thanks.