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Post by wolfys001 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:56 am

i was palying on your server and a player said i was hacking and band me i have never cheeted and never  will in my life i am 56 years old i have run servers   and  clans so i know what it is like to have hackers and cheeters on your server  i have even band clan members that cheeted so i am totaly agenst it the player that band me was hunter i saw him going into a hiding place  and because i killed him  he accuesed me of cheeting a did lose it and used the f word and got band which i do regret and apolagise for that its a nice srever you run but if players are suspeted of cheeting and not getting speced defore thay get baned that is unfair to them and to the leaders of the clan as it will just keep every 1 of your servers which no 1 whats a empty server i still like your server and whoude like to still play on it so if admin can please lift the ban so i can play  on your server thank if not all the best for the futcher sorry for the bad spelling but cannot spell good

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Post by wolfys001 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:58 am

forgote to say ip is 108.61.18.110:27950

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Post by Koenios on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:32 am

What name were you playing under? Unless you are I<34rc4d3 you got autobanned by silent, which means that you were hacking.
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user name

Post by wolfys001 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:43 am

i was useing wolfys001

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Post by Carrock8 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:52 am

I have played ET, Hazard ops, MZR, BF2, AIX2, BFBC2, and several other FPS games with wolfy for over 8 years now and have never known him to hack or use aim bots. I play on your server and enjoy my time on it, but to ban a player just because he is maybe better at it than you is not fair or just. We have a clan called KAOS and have run our own servers before and as an admin on several of them, I have wondered if someone was hacking or using aim bots, but without positive proof on our server, or by finding them on banned list from reliable sources, I have never banned a player. To do so diminishes our own reputation within the community.

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Post by Koenios on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:54 am

wolfys001 wrote:i was useing wolfys001

I dont see your name on the banlist. I wasn't there when things happened, but it looks like me you can just come on the server and play.

EDIT: There is a player banned under the name }K{WolfGray. (Banned by silent anticheat).
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wrong name

Post by wolfys001 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:58 am

sorry the name i was useing was wolfy noy wolfys001 sorry for that

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Re: UNFAIR BAN

Post by Koenios on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:01 am

wolfys001 wrote:sorry the name i was useing was wolfy noy wolfys001 sorry for that

Not on the banlist, what message do you get when you connect?
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reson

Post by wolfys001 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:05 am

you are baned from this server
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reson useing hack
expiers never

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Post by Carrock8 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:09 am

Not familiar with silent autoban, but I do know wolfy and he does not hack I realize my statement probably does not mean a whole lot to you as you don't know me from adam, but as a player of this game I find it deplorable that any auto ban is used and an actual admin does not require any more proof than that. I don't know what triggers an auto ban as I have never used it, but I do believe that before a lifetime auto ban is put into effect, that if the accused does request a ruling they should be monitored by an admin. Or a least researched to see if they are on the most up to date ban list of other sites. I enjoy playing on the Asylum servers, but what is silent says I am cheating and bans me? I don't cheat, can not stand a cheater, and always wondered why anyone would cheat. If you can not play the game without cheating, go and practice until you are satisfied with your performance and then come back. I do realize that it is most difficult to monitor full time all the people that play on your servers, but to auto ban someone for life is most harsh. In the case of wolfy, it is not warranted and should be lifted. Thanks for letting me state my reasons here.

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Post by Koenios on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:15 am

Carrock8 wrote:Not familiar with silent autoban, but I do know wolfy and he does not hack I realize my statement probably does not mean a whole lot to you as you don't know me from adam, but as a player of this game I find it deplorable that any auto ban is used and an actual admin does not require any more proof than that. I don't know what triggers an auto ban as I have never used it, but I do believe that before a lifetime auto ban is put into effect, that if the accused does request a ruling they should be monitored by an admin. Or a least researched to see if they are on the most up to date ban list of other sites. I enjoy playing on the Asylum servers, but what is silent says I am cheating and bans me? I don't cheat, can not stand a cheater, and always wondered why anyone would cheat. If you can not play the game without cheating, go and practice until you are satisfied with your performance and then come back. I do realize that it is most difficult to monitor full time all the people that play on your servers, but to auto ban someone for life is most harsh. In the case of wolfy, it is not warranted and should be lifted. Thanks for letting me state my reasons here.

The autoban system is used because we simply cannot watch the server at all times, and when a hacker is on destroying everyone, the anticheat system can save the day. There arent many admins on the asylum server.

I personally am willing to unban wolfy, but I dont see his name on the banlist so there is nothing I can do as far as i know.
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Re: UNFAIR BAN

Post by Carrock8 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:25 am

You have him banned under his old KAOS name. }K{WolfGray. This is the name he was using when I first started playing on the KAOS server. Silent mode was not even an option back then, so not sure how this came to be. But I do know he was very very good at the game back then, but never used a hack.

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Post by wolfys001 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:33 am

thanks for trying to lift the ban but the reson mite be when i was useing }K{wolfgray i hade a lote of stuff on my pc that i used for the server i run and it mite have been some of that stuff that got me baned in the first place  but i took every thing of to to with et and a complet restall os the game and got into your server for the last few days untill hunter came into play we played 1 complet map
then whent onto anuther map and started playing he was killing as soon as the bots was leveing the spawn i saw him killed him then he came dack to almost the same spot then hid behind a buliding so i whent up top and pazerd him and he said i shude leve the server and i said y he said i was hacking and i said i dont f****
cheet then i got band but the onley reson i can figer out is because of the server stuff i did have on my pc at that time  as i said thanks for trying and i hope your server duse well all the best for the futcher

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Re: UNFAIR BAN

Post by Koenios on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:40 am

wolfys001 wrote:thanks for trying to lift the ban but the reson mite be when i was useing }K{wolfgray i hade a lote of stuff on my pc that i used for the server i run and it mite have been some of that stuff that got me baned in the first place  but i took every thing of to to with et and a complet restall os the game and got into your server for the last few days untill hunter came into play we played 1 complet map
then whent onto anuther map and started playing he was killing as soon as the bots was leveing the spawn i saw him killed him then he came dack to almost the same spot then hid behind a buliding so i whent up top and pazerd him and he said i shude leve the server and i said y he said i was hacking and i said i dont f****
cheet then i got band but the onley reson i can figer out is because of the server stuff i did have on my pc at that time  as i said thanks for trying and i hope your server duse well all the best for the futcher

Ok, I unbanned you for now. I don't know whether you were hacking or not, but if the anticheat system bans you again im going to assume you did hack.
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THANKS

Post by wolfys001 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:56 am

thank you verry much i can ashure you i have never hacked and never will it is more than apresheted that you lifted the ban as i really do like the way you have your server set up and run thank you once again for being fair

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Post by Carrock8 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:58 am

Thank you for your understanding in this manner. If for any reason you think wolfy is hacking and need to ban him, just ban me as well, because I will never believe he is hacking despite any auto ban function. Not sure just what triggers this to happen but it will not be because he is using a hack or aimbot. Best wishes for your clan and continued server. Again thank you for your time.

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Post by Carrock8 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:14 am

Un ban did not work but thanks for trying. Good luck with all your future endeavors.

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Re: UNFAIR BAN

Post by Hashshashin on Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:03 am

Carrock8 wrote:Thank you for your understanding in this manner. If for any reason you think wolfy is hacking and need to ban him, just ban me as well, because I will never believe he is hacking despite any auto ban function. Not sure just what triggers this to happen but it will not be because he is using a hack or aimbot. Best wishes for your clan and continued server. Again thank you for your time.

They have all of this set up on an automated ban system--meaning no partiality, no "he said, she said" sort of thing, and without all the drama on this server as there was before.  There were reported times of "I don't like that person so I'll ban them" sort of stuff.  There are really no rules except one--no hacks.  And the auto system checks for those.  It's really a lot more hands-off sort of a system.  So if they were auto-banned, it is very suspicious.  Maybe they installed a wall hack for a wall hack server and they left it on for this one somehow?  Or another player played from the same IP?  Not sure, but a lot of suspicion in this.  Since it's an auto system, suspicion doesn't really come into play though.  In all this, I did see that Koenios was super patient, friendly, even took his word for it that he wasn't hacking and tried to unban him.  Koenios has been great in this.

Thanks for all your personal work and input in this Koenios!  I appreciate that.

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Post by Hashshashin on Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:07 am

Carrock8 wrote:I have played ET, Hazard ops, MZR, BF2, AIX2, BFBC2, and several other FPS games with wolfy for over 8 years now and have never known him to hack or use aim bots. I play on your server and enjoy my time on it, but to ban a player just because he is maybe better at it than you is not fair or just. We have a clan called KAOS and have run our own servers before and as an admin on several of them, I have wondered if someone was hacking or using aim bots, but without positive proof on our server, or by finding them on banned list from reliable sources, I have never banned a player. To do so diminishes our own reputation within the community.

You have been playing on servers that are not this one.  Or maybe you played on this one before the revision. This is Asylum.  While the name might imply a place for crazy people, and yes the crazy panzer-fest games that don't seem to care as much about the objective might also suggest that, it's a more automated system without all the rules, and bans are given rarely, RARELY, and typically automated--NOT based on "I don't like this person" or "I think this person is hacking."  There have been a total of what, two bans or kicks prior to this person?  That's amazing really, and showing that "whim bans" aren't given here.

Prior to this revised server, there was probably a ban or two a week passed out.  Please don't bring drama into this server, or assign drama to it--it's drama free!   Very Happy

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Re: UNFAIR BAN

Post by obituary on Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:19 am

We didn't ban you. The silent mod anti-cheat is detecting something unusual in your ET installation and auto-banning you.

There was no human intervention involved. Creating multiple accounts and playing to our sympathy is pointless as there is no layer of admins to overrule each other and unban you.

You should probably stick to jaymod servers.

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Post by wolfys001 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:47 am

They have all of this set up on an automated ban system--meaning no partiality, no "he said, she said" sort of thing, and without all the drama on this server as there was before.  There were reported times of "I don't like that person so I'll ban them" sort of stuff.  There are really no rules except one--no hacks.  And the auto system checks for those.  It's really a lot more hands-off sort of a system.  So if they were auto-banned, it is very suspicious.  Maybe they installed a wall hack for a wall hack server and they left it on for this one somehow?  Or another player played from the same IP?  Not sure, but a lot of suspicion in this.  Since it's an auto system, suspicion doesn't really come into play though.  In all this, I did see that Koenios was super patient, friendly, even took his word for it that he wasn't hacking and tried to unban him.  Koenios has been great in this.

Thanks for all your personal work and input in this Koenios!  I appreciate that.

yes i do agree that Koenios tryed to help and i am thankfull that he tryed as much as he did as some uther clans whoudenot have even tryed to help

There was no human intervention involved. Creating multiple accounts and playing to our sympathy is pointless as there is no layer of admins to overrule each other and unban you.

You should probably stick to jaymod servers.

Thanks.

i do understand that the anty cheat is finding some thing i have tryed a unistall of everry thing et on pc
and restall and no i was not looking for sympathy just trying to get it sorted out so i coude play on your servers and i do apreshate what hase been done for me and i do play on uther silent servers with anty cheat on with no problems

i still wish you and your clan member and server all the best for the future

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Post by obituary on Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:36 pm

First of all please stop the sock puppet account. I think you can spell normally. Your grammar is normal but you are deliberately misspelling common words. It just makes you appear deceptive, which isn't really helpful if you think about it.

Secondly, there isn't anyone to blame, accuse, ask for mercy, thank for help, etc. Nobody did anything.

This is a bit like running a red light with a camera installed at the intersection and getting an automatic ticket sent to your drivers license. The technology detected an anomaly (probably some hack on your computer, or custom server file you made, I dont know), and you were automatically banned.

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Post by smuck on Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:13 pm

I have a sock puppet that helps me out from time to time also.  Not sure if that helps.  Carry on.

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Post by HunTer3 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:28 pm

The ban he's referring to was on my server, not the Asylum server. I have no ideal why he posted the ban here  Smile


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Post by HunTer3 on Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:42 pm

# Name              silEnT   ID   PB GUID     Date                     Banned By Duration   Reason

   1  }K{WolfGraY 0DDDEC30  DCCCCDD3  07/02/15   silEnT    11 months                Automatic ban based on technical evidence of cheats.

   2  wolfy001      EBFFD9EC   F8031407    07/14/15   silEnt     11 months                Automatic ban based on technical evidence of cheats

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Post by Hashshashin on Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:38 pm

Can we just freeze or end this message board string?  = NO DRAMA.  Stop it where it is  Very Happy

And maybe adopt this sort of response: "We didn't do anything, the automatic Silent mod system did it, you're talking to the wrong people.  I'd recommend talking to the guy that developed Silent mod.  We don't know his number, you'll have to go look it up.  Have a nice day!"  (Asylum, home of the sane)

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Post by obituary on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:04 pm

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