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Post by Noname(Est) Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:23 am

its very hard to play on beginner thx that everyone just stacks one team and then just choke spawn and its just so bad to play when you go like 5v1 and then cant even leave spawn thx to the panzer and molotov spam i think its needed that the spawn protection needs to be a littel bigger so you cant just choke the enemy by stacking one team.
i love to play E.T but sometimes it makes me so ma that i cant even leave the spawn and i dont wanna join the other team and then play against bots because thats to easy i like to have some fun and play human v human
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Post by manic1965 Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:07 am

i agree, but any FBY members are supposed to even out the teams,which btw i have noticed they are not doing.just saying:bounce:
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Post by obituary Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:18 am

That's why I removed the arty and mortars, they made this situation even worse. I think it depends a lot on the map design. I have seen the molotovs get a lot of use lately so I am remembering why I removed them last year too.

It would be better if people would move themselves, but I don't want admins moving players around against their will, since that causes all kinds of admin abuse complaints. Some players will quit the game if you put them on Axis, other players will get verbally abusive when they are moved, then the admin reacts with !mute or !kick, and other players see this outcome and decide to leave the server when admins come on.

Easier for me to just remove the molotovs if the problem gets worse.
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Post by obituary Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:23 am

Now that I am thinking about it I will just take out the molotovs on Beginner. They are too powerful. Players get on a roof and throw them the entire map.
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Post by Noname(Est) Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:42 am

yes i always look for the team with less or non players because its never fun when you go to kill just bots when the other team has like 3 or more people on it.
I rarely used molo so im not even sad to see them go im happy because the panzer is easy to evade but molotov is not
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Post by Hammer Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:40 pm

I also join the team with fewer players and that is Axis more often than not. I've noticed that many players have a preference for offense or defense and will switch sides as the map changes. I've joined teams with several fewer players only to find the situation reversed on the next map. Sigh.

Something happened the other night that I thought was amusing. ScaredyKatz was on a team with one other RL player against Largo, Headshot, and three others. I was in spec and ScaredyKatz asked me to please come and help.
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Post by Beastborg Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:12 pm

Hi everyone. I have mixed opinions on the molotov dilemma. Like many others, I've recently discovered the joy of using molotov cocktails. I assumed that FBY regulars would eventually figure out ways to sneak around or power through chokepoints, but it's turning out to be pretty tough. In light of the fact that molotovs will very likely be removed, I respectfully request that we be limited to perhaps 10 molotovs. It is still fun to creep up behind someone and engulf them in flames with the push of a single key. Twisted Evil

Thanks,
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Post by obituary Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:21 pm

Molotovs have been removed from the Beginner server. They are still available on the other jaymod servers for players who want to use them against omnibots.
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Post by Kernel265 Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:09 pm

OK - I'm just gonna say this.
Don't take it to be disrespectful.

Aren't there already a ton of bot servers out there with balanced teams, wimpy weapons, friendly fire off, etc.?

The reason I came here in the first place was because you guys offered something different.

It's like everyone is trying to go back to standard ET.
Haven't you played this game that way enough already?

My God people, the freakin' game has been out like 10 years now (more I think).

How long can you take playing the same old objectives on the same old maps?

At least spamming the crap out of a bot spawn with mortar is something relatively new and (for me) fun.

I'll be on Valhalla and Minas, call me when the fun is turned back on at Beginner.

Maybe you guys should start a server called Whiners Paradise and set it with balanced teams on, FF off, 10 second spawn protection, standard double jump and gravity, no arty, no mortar, no panzers, no moltavs, no poison gas and no self healing medics.
Yeah, that sounds like fun right there.
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Post by obituary Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:04 pm

Kernel265 wrote:OK - I'm just gonna say this.
Don't take it to be disrespectful.

Aren't there already a ton of bot servers out there with balanced teams, wimpy weapons, friendly fire off, etc.?

The reason I came here in the first place was because you guys offered something different.

It's like everyone is trying to go back to standard ET.
Haven't you played this game that way enough already?

My God people, the freakin' game has been out like 10 years now (more I think).

How long can you take playing the same old objectives on the same old maps?

At least spamming the crap out of a bot spawn with mortar is something relatively new and (for me) fun.

I'll be on Valhalla and Minas, call me when the fun is turned back on at Beginner.

Maybe you guys should start a server called Whiners Paradise and set it with balanced teams on, FF off, 10 second spawn protection, standard double jump and gravity, no arty, no mortar, no panzers, no moltavs, no poison gas and no self healing medics.
Yeah, that sounds like fun right there.
lol I hear you, I really do. I prefer the heavy weapons myself but it's no fun for the other players when five guys are using the mortar on the spawn area.

That's why I keep the weapons set high on the other servers, I know lots of people love them obviously or they wouldn't be using them on Beginner all day. The other servers are mostly omnibots, and bots don't leave the server when they get camped.

I like to go to Valhalla sometimes and just throw arty for about twenty minutes just for fun.
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Post by Noname(Est) Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:19 am

i agree it is fun to play with heavy weapons and uber molotov but when 5 people just spam the spawn with molotovs then people just wont join the other team because they now they will not get out of the spawn.
i been playing here from the start of the clan i think it almost close 3 years now playing here
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Post by Friedrich Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:12 am

The bots are so stupid that the servers are boring and players like killing real people better.

Funboy was wide open run and gun now its stalk, check compass map, stalk, find the campers.

You can do that on any server.
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Post by Kernel265 Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:34 pm

But  not with  999 mortar shells ready to go. 

The internet is full of empty run and gun servers with a few exceptions such as WF.
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Post by Friedrich Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:09 pm

I was agreeing with you Kernel. Think I have played twice on Beginner since the change.

Got Skyrim for the 360 and it has sucked up all my time.

Am at level 62 of 81.  Its a frigging huge rpg.
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Post by Kernel265 Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:14 pm

I keep seeing those BF4 trailers and it makes me think about a new computer. I did love BF2.

The only reason I still play et is for the people I know on the various servers. Fun crowd.
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Post by Noname(Est) Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:12 am

i to play diablo 3,lol and lot of other rpg love them alot Very Happy
i played cod4 when it was first released but the hackers and botter ruined bad but e.t is the longest game next to diablo 1 what i play i dont own any consoles.but still i play the ps one with friends because its fun and i to have a working 8bit console what i sometimes like to play on Very Happy
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Post by obituary Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:45 pm

I haven't played for a week lol. Got too much going on in real life to sit around playing video games. My kid plays more than I do.

You guys know I listen to everybody. I come here and read everything and try to consider different points of view. Everyone has a different opinion. I try to figure out what is best for the majority of players,

If mortars and arty and molotovs were best, then I would not see an increase in player retention when those weapons were removed.

See if you want to use those weapons go play on the the other two jaymod servers. You have twice as many servers running unlimited spam as the one restricted server. Guess which server has ten people on it at any time of day? The restricted server. So if I had Beginner like the others it would just be empty as well.
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Post by obituary Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:39 pm

Obviously this idea did not work, as we have dropped from the low 40s to 58 as of today. We have been dropping one rank down every day lately, and the server is often empty. Right now as I am writing this there is one player on Beginner. At 11:30 at night US time there should be many players.

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/108.61.18.107:27962/
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Post by Kernel265 Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:07 am

I started playing ET:Quake Wars again.
Forgot how much I love that game too.

Work and family make gaming difficult here too.
I usually get on after everyone has gone to bed.
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